tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7261803.post7056505982515350361..comments2023-10-22T17:00:35.039+08:00Comments on Random Thoughts: Trillanes, liar or just gulllible?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7261803.post-7057760725648444692007-12-05T13:51:00.000+08:002007-12-05T13:51:00.000+08:00Gullible with a messianic complex.Gullible with a messianic complex.jc smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14416164709039335928noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7261803.post-57963000544823657542007-11-04T08:10:00.000+08:002007-11-04T08:10:00.000+08:00Sorry if I misunderstood your position. I was als...Sorry if I misunderstood your position. I was also there and with the Erap pardon, some people seem to be belittling its significance.<BR/><BR/>I will also agree that there were groups within Edsa 2 that did not want GMA to take over. I will argue however that they were in the minority. The majority consensus, I maintain is for GMA to take over. Not because they like her to take over, she was a already a trapo back then, but because her taking over will be the least disruptive to Philippine society because she was next in-line for the Presidency. <BR/><BR/>That is why the call then was for Erap to resign, so that GMA can take over.<BR/><BR/>And even then our country is still divided over her taking over the Presidency. <BR/><BR/>For the record, I supported her taking over, our democracy is flawed, but it is fixable. Any other proposal back then would have created a dictatorship of some kind, and I still remember Marcos. And I still maintain - Never Again!<BR/><BR/>p.s. <BR/><BR/>As proof that our democracy is fixable I offer the experiences of Naga City and Mayor Robredo, Marikina City and the Fernandos, Quezon City and Mayor Sonny Belmonte, Pampanga and Father Ed, Biliran and Congressman Chong, Isabela and Gov. Padaca. The first three prove that good governance can be done in the Philippines. The last three that entrenched and moneyed political dynasties can be overcome.Roy C. Choco, FCDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15571388499810304642noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7261803.post-74336250400813921192007-11-04T07:31:00.000+08:002007-11-04T07:31:00.000+08:00You misunderstood my post. I am not belittling the...You misunderstood my post. I am not belittling the overthrow of Erap. I was there at the rallies (hey, it had great bands playing!). The people that gathered there (reports say between 200-500k) were unified in opposition to Erap's regime. <BR/><BR/>But the people were not unified on who should take over. Why would GMA have to be it? If what was happening was a coup or revolution, then the constitution would be suspended and her position as VP doesn't mean anything. Some were going for CJ Hilario Davide to take over. Others want a military junta. Still others would want the dissolution of the government and a new charter.<BR/><BR/>Out of nowhere, this lady would usurp the crowd to her own advantage. Thrust upon? I don't think so. EDSA 2 is about Erap's ouster, not Gloria's take-over. One can appreciate the former without agreeing with the latter.Danny Boy, FCDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05188779170739251410noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7261803.post-2753641112196610382007-11-03T22:42:00.000+08:002007-11-03T22:42:00.000+08:00Hi Heathen DanYour right, GMA was not re-elected. ...Hi Heathen Dan<BR/><BR/>Your right, GMA was not re-elected. <BR/><BR/>I can't agree with you however that she usurped the Presidency in a moment of public unrest. The presidency was thrust upon her by the public, yes she wanted it, but saying that she usurped the Presidency makes the efforts of civil society in deposing President Estrada seem insignificant.Roy C. Choco, FCDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15571388499810304642noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7261803.post-1086722501322024362007-11-03T22:20:00.000+08:002007-11-03T22:20:00.000+08:00GMA wasn't "reelected," she usurped the presidenti...GMA wasn't "reelected," she usurped the presidential post in a moment of public unrest. Our constitution, for what it's worth, does not allow presidents to be voted for two terms. She was merely savvy enough to exploit a loophole, and stealing the election in 04, to have a pretty long stay in office.Danny Boy, FCDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05188779170739251410noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7261803.post-56863371664469817002007-11-03T09:40:00.000+08:002007-11-03T09:40:00.000+08:00Hindi naman siguro sado-masochist ang mga pinoy. ...Hindi naman siguro sado-masochist ang mga pinoy. critical lang tayo sa ating mga presidente. Bago kay Marcos at Gloria, walang presidente ng Pilipinas ang nanalo ng re-election. At itong dalawang na re-elect ay nanalo lamang dahil... alam mo na.<BR/><BR/>Kaya gusto ng mga tao na maglagay ng kontra-pelo sa mga Presidente natin, at usually yung mga mai-ingay at headline friendly, yung nakikilala, at sila yung naboboto.Roy C. Choco, FCDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15571388499810304642noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7261803.post-80208835532708471252007-11-02T20:12:00.000+08:002007-11-02T20:12:00.000+08:00may pagka-sado masochist kasi tayong mga pinoy.......may pagka-sado masochist kasi tayong mga pinoy....<BR/><BR/>ewan ba why they prefer this to be the work of a bomber. <BR/><BR/>aba, hindi ba sila kinikilabutan, kung bomber ito, super galing nya....matakot na ang buong mundo...<BR/><BR/>hmmm, buti nalang pala na ang ebak ng mga poor ay sa ilog pasig ang bagsak...The Nashmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14601052480474730831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7261803.post-62249072839695575652007-11-02T07:32:00.000+08:002007-11-02T07:32:00.000+08:00I think Filipinos like to vote into office known c...I think Filipinos like to vote into office known critics of PresidentsRoy C. Choco, FCDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15571388499810304642noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7261803.post-42985844616067560362007-11-01T22:21:00.000+08:002007-11-01T22:21:00.000+08:00Trillanes is a crackpot. It's shameful that he was...Trillanes is a crackpot. It's shameful that he was voted into office for being "principled." We now see that his principles are tinged with conspiratorial thinking and delusions.Danny Boy, FCDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05188779170739251410noreply@blogger.com